How To Get 10000 Hits Daily Part 3

How to replicate the 10,000 Hits A Day system.

You will need a website host (free or paid) and an autoresponder capable of creating webpage forms. If you do not already have a web hosting service you can get free hosting at www.freewebs.com. Get a free autoresponder at www.freeautobot.com. (Instructions below.)

The next step is to go to the following pages and chose your favorite template to save to your computer:

www.askchane.com/10khits.htm

www.askchane.com/10khits2.htm

www.askchane.com/10khits3.htm

www.askchane.com/trafficmonster.htm

Pick the one you want then just click on ‘View’ from the toolbar, then ‘Source’ from the drop down menu and save as ‘index.htm’. After saving this page to your computer you will have to view the source code and delete the code for my autoresponder, replacing it with the form code generated by your autoresponder.

The next step is to upload your replicated page to your web hosting service. This is the page you will target in the 20 start page exchanges that you have set up in the Avant Browser. However, don’t do this until you have received the information in my next email, as you will need to use my series of four emails to set up your autoresponder, merely changing my URLs and personal information to yours.

You will gather leads from your autoresponder that will have the name and email address of all those who complete and submit the form and you will gather referrals to your hit page for all those who opt to replicate this method and join your exchanges under your referral URLs.

To Increase your traffic with this system, grab yourself a free account at Subscription Rocket and build yourself a mailing list just by simply adding a couple lines of code to your site: www.askchane.com/subscriptionrocket

Go to free hosting at www.freewebs.com. Sign up. Log in and click on Site Manager. Then click on “Add a Page’ and name it ‘index.htm’. Under ‘Filename’ you should see ‘index.htm’. Click on ‘Edit’. This is were you will paste the code you want for your visitors. Once you have pasted the HTML code, click on ‘File’ and then ‘Save’ and your page should now look like this:

www.freewebs.com/yourname/index.htm

Tomorrow: How to put it all together.

Setting Up A Simple Web Server

You don’t need to set up a web server in order to automate the delivery of your information products. This section is for people who don’t want to pay a cent for hosting their downloadable information products and web sites. Hosting your own web pages gives you much more hard drive space and easier control of your HTML documents. This section will also go over typical issues when setting up a web server and a solution for each issue.

Internet Service Providers (ISP’s)

Here is a little information on most Internet Service Providers (ISP’s). If you’re on a basic ADSL or Cable package, then chances are you have some restrictions on your Internet account. Common limitations are certain port blockages, and IP address assignment process. First, let’s look at ports.

Ports

Ports are used for communication on the Internet. There are a lot of them, and knowing what they all do is not important for this document. What is important is that your ISP may be blocking you from accepting requests on port 80, which is the HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol) port. HTTP allows you to surf the Internet. If you look at the address bar on your browser, you will always see “HTTP”. This means that you can access the Internet on an outgoing basis, but you can’t accept incoming HTTP connections. Why? Think of your ISP as doing you a favor. By blocking port 80, they are eliminating the chance of your computer from ACCEPTING viruses, spyware, and all sorts of other malicious activity. The problem is, this also blocks your ability of accepting other HTTP (port 80) requests, therefore preventing you from being a web server. To find out if your port 80 is blocked, you will either have to go to your ISP’s web site and find your license agreement, or call their technical support line and ask. Either way, this problem is easily solved in the next few pages. We will now move on to the next issue, IP Address Assignment.

IP Address Assignment

An IP (Internet Protocol) address is a unique identifier that gives your computer a “home” on the World Wide Web. Most basic Internet packages, including all dial-up connections, work on a dynamic IP address assignment process. The problem this causes is that if your IP address is always changing, how is anyone supposed to find your “home”? It would be like you lived in your house for 5 hours, and then left. Even your trusty mailman would get confused! One solution is to call your ISP and get your Internet package upgraded to a business plan, which will change your IP from dynamic to static, but at an extra cost. The other is to use a great free tool that we will explain in the next section.

To find out your IP address, click “Start”, then Run, type “Command”, click “OK”. When the black window, known as the “Command” window opens, type “ipconfig /all”. This will yield your current IP configuration. If you see a line that says “Lease Expires”, and it’s soon, then you definitely have a dynamic IP. Don’t worry if it expires soon, you’ll get a new one as soon as it does. You will also notice a 4-octet number, seperated by 3 periods next to its appropriate description, “IP Address”. This is your IP address.

No-IP.com

Who is No-IP?

These guys are great!

Before we get into it, lets define what a domain name is. A domain name is a alphanumeric representation of your IP address. In other words, any “www” name you enter into your address bar actually reflects an IP address. If you open up your command window again and type “ping www.articleautomate.com”, you will notice there is an IP
address in square brackets next to my domain name in the results.

Now, let’s move on.

First, No-IP will give you a web name and you don’t even have to pay for it! That means you don’t have to purchase a domain name. Any “www” address you see in your address bar is a domain name. When you use No-IP.com, you will receive a domain name that looks like www.yourname.no-ip.com. Notice the “no-IP” part. Since No-IP.com is a free service, they add that to your “www” name. This is fine because the purpose of your site is to serve your articles to your customers through your eBay and Paypal “Instant Purchase” sales, although you can also serve web pages. Your domain name also remains easy to remember.

Second, your dynamic IP address issue simply disappears. No-IP.com has developed a free piece of software that you download from them and install on your PC. What it does is monitor your IP address, and when your IP changes, it tells the No- IP.com server, which updates your “www” name to reflect your new IP address.

No-IP.com Registration

Now that you understand what No-IP is, you are ready to go out and get registered. Click the link below, find their “Sign-up Free” link, and fill in the blanks.

www.articleautomate.com/no-ip

Once you have fully registered, you will receive a confirmation email. Follow the directions on the email. Next, log into your No-IP.com account, and click on the “Add” link under the “Hosts/Redirects” header.

The “Hostname” textbox is where you will enter your “www” name, and the dropdown is the No-IP.com extension of your choice.

If your ISP does not block port 80 then you don’t need to do any port redirecting. Just click the “Create Host” button at the bottom of the page.

If your ISP does block port 80 then click on the “Port 80 Redirect”. A new page will load, but will look almost the same. For the “Port”, enter 8000. Click the “Create Port Redirect” at the bottom of the page.

Registration is complete – on to the software!

Click on the “Downloads” tab at the top and then click “Windows” on the left column. Click on the No-IP DUC v x.x.x link. (x.x.x because the version is always changing)

Follow the wizard to install the program. Once installation is complete, you will be prompted for the email address and password you entered during registration. After entering this, the console will open. Turn to the next page to see what your console will look like.

console

Notice the smiley face. That means the No-IP.com server has been updated with your current IP address.

Now that you have your domain name set up, you have to start hosting your pages! The next section will introduce you to an excellent program called Abyss Web Server by Aprelium.

Abyss Web Server

What is Abyss?

Simply put, Abyss is a free personal web server for Windows, MacOS X, Linux, and FreeBSD. Abyss is just a web server, and does not allow for any FTP protocol. You can access your console remotely to update directory and user settings, but you can’t upload any files unless you are at the computer running the web server.

Installation

Click on the following link:
www.articleautomate.com\abyss

Find the “Download” link under the “Software Resources” header near the bottom of the page. Click on the “Download Abyss Web Server X1 for Windows” link and install the software.

Once the installation is complete, you will be asked for a username and a password. This identifier will then be your login to your web server. You will also see the Abyss icon in your system tray. After entering your login info, you will be prompted again for a username and password. You will always be prompted for your login information with this screen whenever you start your console.

You should get a console that looks something like this:

console

Do not change the “Server Root”. This is where your web server runs.

Change your “Documents Path” to the path you wish to host your pages from. For this book, I will use “c:\article”.

If your “Port” isn’t already set to 8000, do that now.

Any changes that you make will require a server restart, which is nothing more than clicking a button when you are prompted.

If you ever need to access your console again, right click on the Abyss icon in the system tray, and select “Show Console”. Please take into consideration that we have only skimmed the surface with Abyss Web Server and that there is much more to learn about it, such as setting up directory and user permissions, and your access statistics.

We will now move on to a “suggested” method of setting up your web server directory.

Directory Structure

Before you start creating HTML and putting your article online, you may want to look at how you want your web server’s file system to be set up. I have found that it is easier to maintain when you have the following setup: For this example, I have set my “Documents Path” to c:\article. To create a directory, read “Directory Creation”.

Take a look at the image below:

console

You will notice that we are in the article directory, and there is an index.htm file. This file will be your website’s home page. Next, you will see an images folder and a widgets folder. You will store all of your website’s images in the image folder. The widgets folder will contain another “index.html” file, which will contain the download link to your article.

Directory Creation

To create your “article” directory:

1. Right-Click the “Start” menu.
2. Click on “Explore”.
3. Navigate through the tree until you find “C:” and click on it.
4. In the right window pane, right-click on some white-space, and select “New”, then “Folder”.
5. Name your folder “article”.

Follow this process to create your “images” and “widgets” directory. We will look at creating your “index.html” file in Section 4 or this article.

Test Your Server

Next, test your server. Run the “ipconfig” command, and write down your IP address. Open a new web browser and in the address bar type: yo.ur.ip.addy:8000/

If you get the Paypal button you created and tested earlier, you have correctly installed Abyss. Notice the “8000”. This directs the website to your port 8000. If you decide to run your server on a different port, you will need to change this figure to be the same.

Now try your No-IP domain name “http://yourname.no-ip.com”. Notice that your address bar changes to your IP address?

If you don’t want the address to change to your IP, then you will have to log into your No-IP account and edit your Host settings from “Port 80 Redirect” to “DNS Host,” but the difference will be that your domain will look like www.yourname.no-ip.com:8000.

Troubleshooting

If you experience problems, such as “error 404 - Page cannot be found”, then try some of these suggestions:

1. Make sure there is an “index.html” file in your “c:\article” directory.
2. Make sure your “Documents Path” is set to “c:\article”
3. Make sure you see the following icons in your system tray (bottom right):
4. Make sure your web address DOES NOT contain a “WWW” in it. It should follow this exact protocol: yourname.no-ip.com.

If all none of these suggesstions work, the following link:
www.articleautomate.com/serverhelp

A Stop For File Deleters

Introduction

This tutorial should not be used to exploit webservers. Some of de techniques used here have certain outputs that can crash old servers makin’ them unusable. Throughout this tutorial, techniques will be passed on from exploits found in de ‘windows’ OS. That ‘ACTUALLY’ helps in de prevention of deletion. There are lots of methods in stoppin’ a deleter, without de ANY restrictions set on de server but most have some weak point. After comin’ across four new techniques, makin’ a folder ‘invisible’ or undetectable from an ftp client LIST fuction. Makin’ folders/directories inaccessable and clone prevention, creatin’ smart directories which slows
down de users attempt. I’m sure most users would thank me for this, ‘undeletable files’ after experiencin’ rock solid protection and safe files.

Invisible Directories

The idea of invisible directoires came about when I came across paths that were “/ /example/” and was not listed in de main folder but was still ‘accessable’. These can be created in all directories without oder users knowin’ it exists unless bein’ searched for ‘MANUALLY’, which takes ages at de present time to search through each folder for “/ /”.

Creatin’ Invisible Directories

1. before
./pub/
./images/
./_vti_pvt/
./_vti_cnf/
./_vti_log/
./temp/

2. after
./ /~/temp/tagged/for/team/warezpiratez/fxp/ <- hidden folder
./pub/
./images/
./_vti_pvt/
./_vti_cnf/
./_vti_log/
./temp/

To create de hidden folders, make a new dir. as follows usin' this method. [backslash][space][backslash][foldername1][backslash][foldername2].

ie. / /foldername1/foldername2/...

The 'space' isn't a name but a 'character' that does not get listed, derefore makin' de directories impossible to view.

NOTE: Makin’ de hidden folders several LAYERS/SUB-DIRECTORIES deep is recommended.

ie. / / / /~/temp/tagged/for/ /team/warez/ /piratez/fxp/

This technique is not ‘anti-deletion proof’ but hidden from deletion proof! Read more to find out how to combine ALL THREE TECHNIQUE to make it ‘REMOTELY’ impossible to delete. Please note de ‘quotes’, REMOTELY in a sense that remote/local host.

Inaccessable Directories

Inaccessable directories prevents de user from ‘enterin'’ de folder. The user will not be able to enter de folders unless knowin’ de ‘entire’ remote path.

Creatin’ Inaccessable Directories

1. before
./temp/tagged/for/team/warezpiratez/fxp/
./pub/
./images/
./_vti_pvt/
./_vti_cnf/
./_vti_log/
./temp/

2. after
./COM1 / temp/tagged/for/team/warezpiratez/fxp/ <- inaccessable directories, due to 'COM1' former windows bug.
./pub/
./images/
./_vti_pvt/
./_vti_cnf/
./_vti_log/
./temp/

To create inaccessable folders, use de followin' list of 'UNUSABLE NAMES'

COM1 COM1 COM3 COM4 (Windows COM PORTS)
LPT1 LPT2 LPT3 LPT4 (Windows Printer Ports)
AUX
NUL

Make a new folder "COM1[space][backslash][space][backslash] ie. /COM1 / /

NOTE: This makes de folder inaccessable, even to de siteadmin.(unless accessed from DOS, local with access to de machine.)

To use de dir. Create a new folder called “COM1[space][backslash][space][foldername1][backslash][foldername2] ie. /COM1 / / ~/temp/tagged/

NOTE: This folder is still inaccessable, if a user attempts to enter it. To gain access to de folder, de ‘full path’ must be known. To enter de folder use de RAW command ‘CWD’ change dir. path. to enter de folder. ie. CWD /COM1 / / ~/temp/tagged/ and voila de folder is usable and workin’.

TIP: Creatin’ de folder ’several’ LAYERS/SUB-DRIECTORIES deep. It is impossible to enter.

Smart Directories

This technique involves, de creation of directories that are ‘COPYRIGHT’. How’s that for a simple description. The idea is to create directories that would contain [periods] thorough each of de subdirectories or segmenets. The use of this is quite sipmle, note de word ‘COPYRIGHT. Most users use de ftp://login :password at ip :port/path/ format for faster access to an ftp.

Creatin’ Smart Directories

To create ’smart’ directories. Make de folder names of each sub directories contain a period before, inside, and after words within de subdirectories creatin’ a fake ‘file’ recognition. The Widows based clients will assume de folders to be files with windows usin’ its 8.3 format for file names.

1. before
ftp://anonymous@anonymous@123.456.789:21/temp/tagged/for/team/warezpiratez/f
xp/

2. after
ftp://anonymous@anonymous@123.456.789:21/temp/tagged ./for . /team. /. warez
.piratez/fxp

NOTE: Be as creative as possible with de dot formation, to prevent COPYING of all folders through each directories. The idea is to make de directories act as file extensions derefore when copied, it will be ‘queued’ and de user has to enter de directories MANUALLY. Oder ‘SYMBOLS’ can be used NOT ONLY just periods. But I find this most common, if de creator intends to create a catch phrase ‘memorable’ to him alone.

QUEUE: 1. /temp/tagged ./for . /team. /. warez .piratez/fxp <- result of folder extensions

Undeletable Files

Sad that we had to resolve to this but, this might be de end of deletion as we speak. I find no oder method out dere that can accomplish this task except settin’ restrictions from de server. This method involves de file bein’ self-protected. Meanin’ de files are ‘accessable’/'downloadable’ but can NOT be deleted. The idea is to make de file corrupted/crash makin’ it ‘in use’.

Creatin’ Undeletable Files

To create a self protected file, rename de entire file includin’ de extensions to de followin’ format:

filename[space][period]/[space]/ ie. filename ./ / The / / in de name as shown above in de previous example of creatin’ invisible directories makes de .extesion impossible to view on de pub as a windows recognized mime but, once dowloaded it will be shown and accessable. How’s that for wits.

1. before
warezpiratez.rar <- rar mime, winrar.

2. renamin’
warezpiratez ./ /

3. results
-warezpiratez <- unknown file(undeletable,downloadable) <- file will take de correct mime format on localhost

Ultimate Protection

The ultimate protection is obviously, yourself and your wits against de deleters. Use private FTPs, get fast sites T1+, but in this case, it would be de combination of all four techniques. Usin’ them into one major and thoughtout plan.

Creatin’ The Ultimate Protection

To create de ultimate protection that is desirable, first of all, create de invisible folders as shown above, several sub.dirs deep. Then creatin’ an ‘inaccesable’ folder within those invisible folders. Then de next step is to create those smart directories so it slows down ANY attempt to gain full access, and also it makes to user run into inaccessable folders. The idea is to trap de user before those folders usin’ de smart directories idea. I didn’t think that was ingenieus but just common sense and seemd smart!.

1. before
/temp/tagged/for/team/warezpiratez/fxp/ <- no protection

2. after
/ / /./ ./COM1 / temp/tagged ./for . /team. /. warez .piratez/fxp <-
protection(still weak)

NOTE: You can be creative with this technique, make it more complex, I didn’t do it in this tutorial because den that would make you just confused. I hope this helps, and please understand. It is not hard, unless you didn’t read from de Introduction. I made this well detailed. For it to be as simple as possible.

FAQ

1. What is a SUB-DIRECTORY
- It is de folder that is second/inside anoder folder. ie. firstfolder/subdir/

2. What is a pub
- Short for public ftp. There are, no restrictions/protection on de access over files. Some have them in most cases but den uploads/downloads are denied. Some would not allow fxp.

3. What does all this mean?
- It provides de internet safer from all de deleters.

4. Who are deleters?
- Deleters are mean and NASTY people who deletes files. Consists of spammers too.

12 Ways For Windows XP To Perform Faster

Makin’ Windows XP Go Faster

Services You Can Disable

There are quite a few services you can disable from startin’ automatically. This would be to speed up your boot time and free resources. They are only suggestions so I suggestion you read de description of each one when you run Services and that you turn them off one at a time.

Some possibilities are:

Alerter
Application Management
Clipbook
Fast UserSwitchin’
Human Interface Devices
Indexin’ Service
Messenger
Net Logon
NetMeetin’
QOS RSVP
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
Remote Registry
Routin’ & Remote Access
SSDP Discovery Service
Universal Plug and Play Device Host
Web Client

Cleanin’ de Prefetch Directory

Windows XP has a new feature called Prefetch. This keeps a shortcut to recently used programs. However it can fill up with old and obsolete programs.

To clean this periodically go to:

1) Star / Run / Prefetch
2) Press Ctrl-A to highlight all de shorcuts
3) Delete them

Not Displayin’ Logon, Logoff, Startup and Shutdown Status Messages

To turn dese off:

1) Start Regedit
2) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/MicrosoftWindows/CurrentVersion/
policies/system
3) If it is not already dere, create a DWORD value named DisableStatusMessages
4) Give it a value of 1

Clearin’ de Page File on Shutdown

1) Click on de Start button
2) Go to de Control Panel
3) Administrative Tools
4) Local Security Policy
5) Local Policies
6) Click on Security Options
7) Right hand menu - right click on “Shutdown: Clear Virtual Memory Pagefile”
8) Select “Enable”
9) Reboot

For regedit users, if you want to clear de page file on each shutdown:

1) Start Regedit
2) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControl/SetControl/SessionManager/
MemoryManagement/ClearPageFileAtShutdown
3) Set de value to 1

No GUI Boot

If you don’t need to see de XP boot logo :

1) Run MSCONFIG
2) Click on de BOOT.INI tab
3) Check de box for /NOGUIBOOT

Speedin’ de Startup of Some CD Burner Programs

If you use program oder than de native WindowsXP CD Burner software, you might be able to increase de speed that it loads.

1) Go to Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Services
2) Double-click on IMAPI CD-Burnin’ COM Service
3) For de Startup Type, select Disabled
4) Click on de OK button and den close de Services window

Gettin’ Rid of Unread Email Messages

To remove de Unread Email message by user’s login names:

1) Start Regedit
2) For a sin’le user: Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/MicrosoftWindows/CurrentVersion/UnreadMail
3) For all users: Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/MicrosoftWindows/CurrentVersion/UnreadMail
4) Create a DWORD key called MessageExpiryDays
5) Give it a value of 0

Decreasin’ Boot Time

Microsoft has made available a program to analyze and decrease de time it takes to boot to Windows XP. The program is called BootVis

1) Uncompress de file.
2) Run BOOTVIS.EXE
3) For a startin’ point, run Trace / Next Boot + Driver Delays
4) This will reboot your computer and provide a benchmark
5) After de reboot, BootVis will take a minute or two to show graphs of your system startup.
6) Note how much time it takes for your system to load (click on de red vertical line)
7) Then run Trace / Optimize System
8) Re-Run de Next Boot + Drive Delays
9) Note how much de time has decreased
10) Mine went from approximately 33 to 25 seconds.

Increasin’ Graphics Performance

By default, WindowsXP turns on a lot of shadows, fades, slides etc to menu items. Most simply slow down deir display.

To turn dese off selectively:

1) Right click on de My Computer icon
2) Select Properties
3) Click on de Advanced tab
4) Under Performance, click on de Settin’s button
5) To turn them all of, select Adjust for best performance
6) My preference is to leave them all off except for Show shadows under mouse pointer and Show window contents while draggin’

Increasin’ System Performance

If you have 512 megs or more of memory, you can increase system performance by havin’ de core system kept in memory.

1) Start Regedit
2) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControl/SetControl/SessionManager/
MemoryManagement/DisablePagin’Executive
3) Set de value to be 1
4) Reboot de computer

Increasin’ File System Cachin’

To increase de amount of memory Windows will locked for I/O operations:

1) Start Regedit
2) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControl/SetControl/SessionManager/
MemoryManagement
3) Edit de key IoPageLockLimit

Resolvin’ Inability to Add or Remove Programs

If a particular user cannot add or remove programs, dere might be a simple registry edit neeed.

1) Go to HKCU/Software/MicrosoftWindows/CurrentVersion/Policies/Uninstall
2) Change de DWORD NoAddRemovePrograms to 0 disable it

4096 - 32megs of memory or less
8192 - 32+ megs of memory
16384 - 64+ megs of memory
32768 - 128+ megs of memory
65536 - 256+ megs of memory

Get Unlimited Bandwidth From Your Host For Free

NOTE: This applies only to specific hostin’ companies, due to de specific setup needed and does have its drawbacks.

While settin’ up hostin’ space with a specific company I often deal with, I noticed that dey used a shared IP. (IP shared by two or more websites/domains.) Well, de rates for unlimited bandwidth were around $50+ per month, which I found unreasonable. I didnt require much space, and didnt want to be limited to a mere 3 gig of traffic per month.

Back on track. When settin’ up de acct, de hostin’ company needs to know de domain name so that dey can direct it accordin’ly. (example: ‘http://www.123.4.567.890/~user1/ , ‘http://www.123.4.567.890/~user2/ etc)

At this point you can give a url that doesnt belon’ to you at all. As lon’ as de nameservers dont change, that should have absolutely no negative effects on you or your site whatsoever.

How it works is this:

The host propogates you a certain amount space on its servers, and monitors de traffic that enters deir space through de domain its registered under. Bein’ that de domain isn’t connected to de site at all, it registers ZERO traffic.

Zero traffic registered = can’t possibly go over bandwidth restrictions
can’t possibly go over bandwidth restrictions = free unlimited bandwidth

Now de problems with this (besides de ethical ones) is that your host may offer X amount of mail addys with de acct (you@y…) and dese will not work, as de name isnt on deir DNS. However, some domain companies allow you to set it up regardless. Anoder problem seems to be strictly cosmetic, but can be highly problematic… Once you attach de domain you want onto de site, each page comes up/w de ip/UN de host propagated to your
acct. Its at this point where you have to have a phenominal 10-15 character alphanumerical or better (#, &, etc) pw, or your site will be vulnerable to attack since de attacker already has your UN. This only gives attackers a slight advantage as de amount of time it would take to brute force a 10 character pw @ a rate of 1,000,000 per
second is 10 years. Add numbers and case sensitivity to that and it becomes approx 26,980 years.

While I’m on it, I may as well add that if you use this method, obviously you are goin’ to be usin’ de lowest cost hostin’ plan available, which in turn will offer de least amount of space. Thats why free hosts were invented.

Free hosts suck as a general rule. Who wants a site smodered in ads? However, if you upload all your programs, graphics and oder large files (have a backup of course) to a reliable free host and target them accordin’ly from your site you have just freed up a signifigant amount of space. The only setback/w this is havin’ to keep an index card or file around/w your pws, as you should never use de same one twice, and want to use complicated ones.

 
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